Medium Denies Oral Sex With Autistic Man
“A medium at a spiritualist church has appeared in court accused of engaging in sexual activity with a mentally disabled man. The medium, who lives in Tooting, took part in oral sex and masturbation with a man in his early 20s with Asperger’s syndrome in October 2006… the man’s mother said she met the medium five years ago at church and had grown to trust him. She said: ‘We went to see him once or twice a week, not just on spiritual matters but to talk things through, to feel better about myself.’ She said her son would sometimes get become angry and visit the man’s house for help and advice, staying over three times to cook and help trim hedges. But he later confessed to her he had shared a bed with the medium and his boyfriend for a massage and he had oral sex in the man’s car. His mother said: ‘He seemed quite calm — he was embarrassed. I was shocked. We sat and chatted. He told me everything about what happened.’ The court heard how the medium claimed to connect the living and the dead at the church, which has an ‘unusual’ approach to God… David Cotson, consultant specialist at South West London and St George’s Mental Health NHS Trust, told the court the alleged victim’s disorder made it difficult for him to understand social cues. Asperger’s syndrome, a form of autism, often renders sufferers unable to understand any sexual advances unless they are put in very plain words. He added that the man would not have had time to process any unexpected sexual advance and was therefore incapable of giving his consent to such. The court was also told that the alleged victim’s Asperger’s syndrome was no reason to doubt his evidence. The defendant denies a charge of sexual activity with a mentally disabled person impeding choice.” — YourLocalGuardian (UK)
(Thanks to Angela for the link.)
“Medium Denies Oral Sex With Autistic Man” — Title of the Year? If you look back over the PervScan 2008 archive, you’ll see that there has been a number of stories with great titles: Rubber Testicles On Trailer Hitch Banned (what the fuck?), Man Groped Deceased’s Sister At Memorial (the title alone is a short story), Porn Loner Had Nappy Dress-Up Fetish (a phrase that may never have appeared in the history of the English language before this year). “Medium Denies Oral Sex With Autistic Man” is a great title too. It conjoins the supernatural, the subfunctional, and the down and dirty. The necromancer, the fucktard, and the cocksucker.
Title aside, it’s tough to offer an informed opinion on this episode. The sexuality of mentally disabled people is a controversial area. Just this year PervScanners had a thriving debate about the propriety of sexual behavior among psychiatric patients. The issues with Asperger’s Syndrome are similar. On one hand, if the “victim” isn’t complaining, it would be easy to turn a blind eye to the whole thing. After all, it’s not him but his mother who brought suit. On the other hand, there are very thorny issues of consent. Autistic people are wont to exhibit sexual behavior anyway. (One expert notes three problems: they masturbate in public, “demonstrate inappropriate sexual behaviour towards other people,” and use self-mutilating techniques to pleasure themselves.) How do you judge consent if an autistic person displays or initiates sexual behavior with someone who is ready, able, and willing? You can’t just make it illegal to engage in sex with the autistic. That’s unrealistic and denies their natural sexuality. But how exactly do you determine what was or wasn’t consensual? It is difficult to figure — but you can say this much for sure: the best way to approach the question is not with a Ouija board.
Yeppers! I can vouch for that ” Expert ” who said autistic people ” Masturbate in public. ”
I used to work for a guy whose son was autistic. Guy was in his late twenties (son) at least. There was a girl on the crew who used to run us non drivers out to jobs. She often had to ferry the son.
She told me one time; ” He’d Murder! I’ll get him out to the location and he’ll suddenly command me, ‘Just wait there a minute.’ Then he’ll hurry away a few yards, lean against some building and start cracking one off! ”
Seems the guy was pretty much indifferent. It wasn’t the attractive, young, female spectator. It was just that urge at that moment … I guess?
Thinking about it though; Why wasn’t he ever had up for succumbing to spontaneity in the street?
Fuck knows how those peoples minds work. But, yes; They Do do weird shit.
The “victim” has Aspergers. which is a VERY mild and to some questionable type of autism. Aspergers doesn’t carry with it the cognitive impairment that one sees in autism, and I find this VERY debatable given a legitimate diagnosis of Aspergers.
To say that Aspergers “victims” don’t recognize sexual advances unless they’re put in plain terms is not to prove that they are incapable of informed consent. How many among us can have difficulty in deciding whether or not a sexual advance is intended? Aspergers indicates a clumsiness in social relations and inability to empathize with others to the extent that you can’t get a handle on what other people are thinking, or expecting of you. None of that impairs ability to give consent. PLUS, this is not a therapist, this is someone the family “knows from church”.
I know a couple of people who have Aspergers, and I have been “diagnosed” with a mild form of it myself.Unless there is significant cognitive impairment, and that would tend to a diagnosis of autism rather than Aspergers, I can’t see this standing up in court. God knows what an American jury would make of it, it would devolve into the ultimate dueling experts type of trial. But, it’s really questionable. We’re not talking about the average autistic child, who self harms for the stimulation involved, or is totally unresponsive socially, or so self involved that they’ll masturbate in public.
Thank you Recluse.
Asperger’s syndrome is not the sort of autism that renders a person ‘mentally disabled’. All the people with Asperger’s that I know are high functioning, incredibly smart people. And yeah, they may have difficulty with social clues, but they’re not completely clueless.
How stupid… Aspergers is sort of a medical explaination for some people being unusually socially awkward. So, should we not be allowed to pursue someone who has a difficult time in social situations? I’m a private person, so most of my bf’s have been somewhat anti-social and nervous around people. Should I be locked up?
The guy seemed embarrassed to talk to his mom about his homosexual escapades, but who wouldn’t be? Has anyone yet just asked the guy if he was ok with what happened? If he says yes, let it go. If he says no, find out if he was pressured. It is possible that his condition made him more easily manipulated, but it doesn’t mean he can’t consent. Maybe his mom just doesn’t wanna face the fact that her son 1. is a sexual being and 2. might be gay or interested in “experimenting”
right on random chick.
There’s a little more to Asperger’s than mere social awkwardness, but I generally flow with the current of opinion here.
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