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		<title>By: GMdefense</title>
		<link>http://pervscan.com/2005/05/13/cyber-slave-driver/comment-page-2/#comment-25777</link>
		<dc:creator>GMdefense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone is interested in helping or supporting Glenn Marcus, please write to GMdefense@optonline.net.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone is interested in helping or supporting Glenn Marcus, please write to <a href="mailto:GMdefense@optonline.net">GMdefense@optonline.net</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Chain</title>
		<link>http://pervscan.com/2005/05/13/cyber-slave-driver/comment-page-2/#comment-25771</link>
		<dc:creator>Chain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 22:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello all...
I  have been reading with some interest these posts 
regarding Glenn Marcus. I DO know him, personally. I have met him in person, 
and was involved in a fully consensual submissive BDSM relationship with him 
since 2003. Of course, since recent events, contact has been somewhat altered. I 
know full well that he did not do anything against anyones will. But I&#039;m not 
discussing the case further, as I really shouldnt. Im discussing the 
conviction, what it means for the BDSM community, and why I feel Glenn Marcus needs our 
support.

The statutes he was convicted under, forced labor and sex trafficking, seem 
to have been originally intended to apply to women and men (usually immigrants) 
who were smuggled into the nation and forced to labor in a variety of ways. 
The women and men often are told they will be deported if they complain, and 
are often beaten, blackmailed, and threatened to get them to remain. The statute 
was never meant to cover a BDSM relationship. 

As for the allegations of abuse, I feel if the govt was REALLY after an 
abusive man (which Glenn is not), Glenn would have been charged with assault, 
aggravated assault, domestic violence,  battery, and rape. But he was not. And the 
reason for that (at least my view of it) is explained below.

This is, as far as I know, the first time these statutes have been used in 
this way. As a result of this conviction, now almost anything can be &quot;forced 
labor&quot;. I believe thats what the Government wants, an expansion of their powers. 
The prosecutor stated in response to a jury question that if someone forced 
someone to play tiddlywinks, that could be forced labor. That certainly paves 
the way for the Government to prosecute ANY BDSM relationship, or any divorce 
where a woman (or a man) claims the other made them cook, wash dishes, do 
housework, etc. Certainly where someone is called a slave, the government will be 
more eager to say &quot;see, it IS slave labor&quot;. The government will conviently 
ignore the fact its not actual slavery, but an aggreed upon structure by both 
parties.

This prosecution is a threat to BDSM. And whether you loathe Glenn or love 
him, he needs support or else we shall all suffer the effects of this horrid 
precedence setting case. 

Sincerely
Chain</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello all&#8230;<br />
I  have been reading with some interest these posts<br />
regarding Glenn Marcus. I DO know him, personally. I have met him in person,<br />
and was involved in a fully consensual submissive BDSM relationship with him<br />
since 2003. Of course, since recent events, contact has been somewhat altered. I<br />
know full well that he did not do anything against anyones will. But I&#8217;m not<br />
discussing the case further, as I really shouldnt. Im discussing the<br />
conviction, what it means for the BDSM community, and why I feel Glenn Marcus needs our<br />
support.</p>
<p>The statutes he was convicted under, forced labor and sex trafficking, seem<br />
to have been originally intended to apply to women and men (usually immigrants)<br />
who were smuggled into the nation and forced to labor in a variety of ways.<br />
The women and men often are told they will be deported if they complain, and<br />
are often beaten, blackmailed, and threatened to get them to remain. The statute<br />
was never meant to cover a BDSM relationship. </p>
<p>As for the allegations of abuse, I feel if the govt was REALLY after an<br />
abusive man (which Glenn is not), Glenn would have been charged with assault,<br />
aggravated assault, domestic violence,  battery, and rape. But he was not. And the<br />
reason for that (at least my view of it) is explained below.</p>
<p>This is, as far as I know, the first time these statutes have been used in<br />
this way. As a result of this conviction, now almost anything can be &#8220;forced<br />
labor&#8221;. I believe thats what the Government wants, an expansion of their powers.<br />
The prosecutor stated in response to a jury question that if someone forced<br />
someone to play tiddlywinks, that could be forced labor. That certainly paves<br />
the way for the Government to prosecute ANY BDSM relationship, or any divorce<br />
where a woman (or a man) claims the other made them cook, wash dishes, do<br />
housework, etc. Certainly where someone is called a slave, the government will be<br />
more eager to say &#8220;see, it IS slave labor&#8221;. The government will conviently<br />
ignore the fact its not actual slavery, but an aggreed upon structure by both<br />
parties.</p>
<p>This prosecution is a threat to BDSM. And whether you loathe Glenn or love<br />
him, he needs support or else we shall all suffer the effects of this horrid<br />
precedence setting case. </p>
<p>Sincerely<br />
Chain</p>
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		<title>By: Comic Customer</title>
		<link>http://pervscan.com/2005/05/13/cyber-slave-driver/comment-page-2/#comment-25728</link>
		<dc:creator>Comic Customer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 22:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.nypost.com/seven/03062007/news/regionalnews/sex_slave_supremo_is_guilty_regionalnews_stefanie_cohen.htm

SEX-SLAVE SUPREMO IS GUILTY
By STEFANIE COHEN

GLENN MARCUS
http://www.nypost.com/seven/03062007/photos/news009.jpg

Faces life sentence.March 6, 2007 -- A man who tortured a &quot;sex slave&quot; then forced her to maintain a Web site filled with depraved images of her bleeding and bruised body was convicted of sex trafficking and forced labor yesterday in Brooklyn federal court. 

Glenn Marcus - who sources said turned down a plea deal for no jail time - faces up to life in prison for the crimes. 

A seven-man, five-woman jury deliberated for seven days before finding Marcus, 53, guilty of the two charges. They acquitted him of an obscenity charge he faced stemming from the graphic images depicted on his slavespace.com Web site. 

Marcus, a chubby, balding man with thick glasses, showed no emotion as the jury forewoman read the verdict. 

After the jury left the courtroom, Marcus spoke to a meek-looking woman in the courtroom who sources said was one of his current &quot;slaves.&quot; He told her: &quot;It&#039;s a victory in one sense,&quot; apparently in reference to the acquittal on the obscenity charge. Friends say Marcus refused the plea deal because he saw his case as a First Amendment issue. 

He will remain out on $1 million bail until his sentencing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nypost.com/seven/03062007/news/regionalnews/sex_slave_supremo_is_guilty_regionalnews_stefanie_cohen.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.nypost.com/seven/03062007/news/regionalnews/sex_slave_supremo_is_guilty_regionalnews_stefanie_cohen.htm</a></p>
<p>SEX-SLAVE SUPREMO IS GUILTY<br />
By STEFANIE COHEN</p>
<p>GLENN MARCUS<br />
<a href="http://www.nypost.com/seven/03062007/photos/news009.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.nypost.com/seven/03062007/photos/news009.jpg</a></p>
<p>Faces life sentence.March 6, 2007 &#8212; A man who tortured a &#8220;sex slave&#8221; then forced her to maintain a Web site filled with depraved images of her bleeding and bruised body was convicted of sex trafficking and forced labor yesterday in Brooklyn federal court. </p>
<p>Glenn Marcus &#8211; who sources said turned down a plea deal for no jail time &#8211; faces up to life in prison for the crimes. </p>
<p>A seven-man, five-woman jury deliberated for seven days before finding Marcus, 53, guilty of the two charges. They acquitted him of an obscenity charge he faced stemming from the graphic images depicted on his slavespace.com Web site. </p>
<p>Marcus, a chubby, balding man with thick glasses, showed no emotion as the jury forewoman read the verdict. </p>
<p>After the jury left the courtroom, Marcus spoke to a meek-looking woman in the courtroom who sources said was one of his current &#8220;slaves.&#8221; He told her: &#8220;It&#8217;s a victory in one sense,&#8221; apparently in reference to the acquittal on the obscenity charge. Friends say Marcus refused the plea deal because he saw his case as a First Amendment issue. </p>
<p>He will remain out on $1 million bail until his sentencing.</p>
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		<title>By: Shoshannah</title>
		<link>http://pervscan.com/2005/05/13/cyber-slave-driver/comment-page-2/#comment-19819</link>
		<dc:creator>Shoshannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 04:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a look at the following letter from the &quot;Government&quot; (that is, the legal team prosecuting Glenn Marcus. They are requesting that the witnesses against Marcus be allowed to conceal their identities, denying him his right to confrontation. Get this: they&#039;re suggesting the witnesses need to be protected _from the BDSM community_, as if the community were some sort of mafia that attacks people who pose a danger to their rights.

The letter acknowledges that the case against Marcus may actually pose a danger to the sexual freedom of BDSMers. . . 

An excerpt from a Government letter dated 10/27/2006, available from public records:

The limited protections requested by the government are
necessary and appropriate to protect the witnessesâ€™ safety and well-being, avoid potential harassment of the witnesses by the press and others, and prevent undue embarrassment and other adverse consequences, such as loss of employment. 
[snip] 

In addition, Marcusâ€™s arrest and prosecution has prompted heated debate online among members of the BDSM community and others, some of whom see the governmentâ€™s prosecution as oppressive and a threat to their sexual freedom. These individuals could similarly view the witnessesâ€™ testimony for the government as offensive and wrong, which could lead to retaliation against the witnesses. [boldface added by poster]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at the following letter from the &#8220;Government&#8221; (that is, the legal team prosecuting Glenn Marcus. They are requesting that the witnesses against Marcus be allowed to conceal their identities, denying him his right to confrontation. Get this: they&#8217;re suggesting the witnesses need to be protected _from the BDSM community_, as if the community were some sort of mafia that attacks people who pose a danger to their rights.</p>
<p>The letter acknowledges that the case against Marcus may actually pose a danger to the sexual freedom of BDSMers. . . </p>
<p>An excerpt from a Government letter dated 10/27/2006, available from public records:</p>
<p>The limited protections requested by the government are<br />
necessary and appropriate to protect the witnessesâ€™ safety and well-being, avoid potential harassment of the witnesses by the press and others, and prevent undue embarrassment and other adverse consequences, such as loss of employment.<br />
[snip] </p>
<p>In addition, Marcusâ€™s arrest and prosecution has prompted heated debate online among members of the BDSM community and others, some of whom see the governmentâ€™s prosecution as oppressive and a threat to their sexual freedom. These individuals could similarly view the witnessesâ€™ testimony for the government as offensive and wrong, which could lead to retaliation against the witnesses. [boldface added by poster]</p>
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		<title>By: Princess Ariel</title>
		<link>http://pervscan.com/2005/05/13/cyber-slave-driver/comment-page-2/#comment-9889</link>
		<dc:creator>Princess Ariel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 04:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted earlier with another name..not sure what that is now.

To answer the questions..nothing has changed..nearly a year later and He is still under house arrest.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted earlier with another name..not sure what that is now.</p>
<p>To answer the questions..nothing has changed..nearly a year later and He is still under house arrest.</p>
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		<title>By: LRB</title>
		<link>http://pervscan.com/2005/05/13/cyber-slave-driver/comment-page-2/#comment-8779</link>
		<dc:creator>LRB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 19:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its been a while since i heard anything about the case against Glenn Marcus. can anyone tell me what is going on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its been a while since i heard anything about the case against Glenn Marcus. can anyone tell me what is going on?</p>
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		<title>By: DARCY</title>
		<link>http://pervscan.com/2005/05/13/cyber-slave-driver/comment-page-2/#comment-7882</link>
		<dc:creator>DARCY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2006 16:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi All... Did something change around here?... It doesn&#039;t look the same.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi All&#8230; Did something change around here?&#8230; It doesn&#8217;t look the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
		<link>http://pervscan.com/2005/05/13/cyber-slave-driver/comment-page-2/#comment-7699</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2006 17:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comic Customer,
Thanks for the links, but as Dr. Darling knows, I am far more interested in behavioral therapy.  Of course, Dr. Darling believes that most behaviorists neglect more important cognitive aspects, and this may be true.  However, I am quite decided now where my interests lie!
Thanks again for the links, CC, 

Leslie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comic Customer,<br />
Thanks for the links, but as Dr. Darling knows, I am far more interested in behavioral therapy.  Of course, Dr. Darling believes that most behaviorists neglect more important cognitive aspects, and this may be true.  However, I am quite decided now where my interests lie!<br />
Thanks again for the links, CC, </p>
<p>Leslie</p>
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		<title>By: Comic Customer</title>
		<link>http://pervscan.com/2005/05/13/cyber-slave-driver/comment-page-2/#comment-7693</link>
		<dc:creator>Comic Customer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 21:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you really want to know what kind of teatment Psychiatrists offer. Here is a list:

Drugs
http://www.liquidtodd.com/news/newsandviews/psych_drugs.html

Electric Shock
http://www.banshock.org/

Brain Operations
http://www.sntp.net/lobotomy/lobotomy.htm

Yes, this is harm in the name of help
http://www.psychassault.org/Funding/treating.html
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you really want to know what kind of teatment Psychiatrists offer. Here is a list:</p>
<p>Drugs<br />
<a href="http://www.liquidtodd.com/news/newsandviews/psych_drugs.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.liquidtodd.com/news/newsandviews/psych_drugs.html</a></p>
<p>Electric Shock<br />
<a href="http://www.banshock.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.banshock.org/</a></p>
<p>Brain Operations<br />
<a href="http://www.sntp.net/lobotomy/lobotomy.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.sntp.net/lobotomy/lobotomy.htm</a></p>
<p>Yes, this is harm in the name of help<br />
<a href="http://www.psychassault.org/Funding/treating.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.psychassault.org/Funding/treating.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
		<link>http://pervscan.com/2005/05/13/cyber-slave-driver/comment-page-2/#comment-7405</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 09:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My previous post should have been addressed to Leonard Darling, MD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My previous post should have been addressed to Leonard Darling, MD.</p>
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