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Cyber Slave Driver

“A Queens man accused of keeping sex slaves and committing horrific acts of torture on women that he photographed and posted on his ultra-violent S&M Web site was nabbed for federal civil rights charges yesterday. Glenn Marcus, 52, made money off a demented pay-per-view site that featured graphic photos of victims he’d lure into master-slave relationships and then hold captive — subjecting them to torture and mutilation in his Kew Gardens apartment and other residences, according to authorities. Adding insult to injury, Marcus allegedly ordered one victim to create his Web site, while a second woman was forced to maintain the site that featured photos of her beaten, cut with knives, needles and pins, hung from the ceiling and choked in a plastic bag… Marcus, who works as a comic book distributor, responded to the allegations in the courthouse hallway, saying, ‘I never involved myself in anything that was not consensual.’ In a search of his apartment on 138th Street yesterday morning, the feds seized whips, leather handcuffs, speculums and various sex toys, as well as Polaroid photos that have been posted on his Web site, sources said… The torture began after the woman agreed to move to a house in Maryland, where another of Marcus’ ’slaves’ was living. ‘Immediately upon her arrival, [the victim] was kept naked and blindfolded and . . . Marcus withheld food and water from her,’ the arrest warrant states. In addition to torturing her, Marcus allegedly forced her to work on his Web site for up to 10 hours per day — often just repeatedly ‘clicking’ on the site so he could get more money. In one gruesome act, Marcus allegedly chained her, covered her head and photographed her as he pinned a Wiffle Ball inside of her mouth and whipped her. In other instances, he allegedly sliced her body with a knife, put her in a plastic bag and choked her, hung her from her wrists and ankles from the ceiling of a basement, and padlocked her genitalia with pins.” — New York Post (US)

The fun thing about this story — if you can ever call a story “fun” when it involves someone claiming to have been tortured — is that Mr. Marcus left tracks all over the internet. The newspapers did not publish the domain names of his sites, but PervScan managed to figure them out. Ready? Here they are: slavespace.com, realrape.com, topbdsm.com, totalsubmission.com, and whorecunts.com. All the sites have been suspended or cancelled, so don’t bother trying them. Google still has bits and pieces of them cached — here, for example, is a cache of the slavespace.com info page — as does archive.org. Here is gallery from whorecunts.com. All told, it looks like pretty crappy porn, the sort of repurposed imagery that pornmeisters use to create affiliate link farms.

The site that appears to have been Mr. Marcus’ primary business, slavespace.com, did have a members gallery, so presumably the original photos — and therefore the evidence of his alleged crimes — must have resided there. What did those photos look like? Well, they’re gone now. But Mr. Marcus did upload samples of his presumably tamer work to some photography web sites. For example, here are a few mediocre pictures, and here is an entire portfolio site. This latter site contains photos that would seem to be more closely linked to his alleged crimes. For example, he’s accused of taking one lady to a house in Maryland, where another of his slaves was already living, and withholding food and drink from her. And wouldn’t you know it? Here’s a picture of two girls, one threatening the other with a knife, that he titled “the slavespace diet plan.” Makes you wonder, doesn’t it?

The important thing, of course, concerns the consensuality of the master/slave relation. From the evidence still available online, it doesn’t appear that Mr. Marcus did anything worse to his slaves than half a million other self-proclaimed masters do to theirs — presuming that he did it with his slaves’ consent and didn’t overstep certain bounds, such as respect for a “safe word.” In that light, it’s also worth noting that Mr. Marcus sometimes posted online personals seeking slaves. Skim down this page for the reference to slavespace.com and you’ll see that he sought not “vanillas” but “submissives who NEED to serve.” This would suggest that he did seek women who knew what they’d be getting into.

But did they? That’s the whole point. If they did not consent to the relationship, or if he overstepped the bounds of an implicit or explicit contract, then he was no longer a master but a rapist — and that’s what the courts will have to decide.

UPDATE 17 May 2005. The New York Daily News gives further details of the sorts of torture to which Mr. Marcus’ slaves were subject. “It wasn’t just the physical torture alleged by prosecutors — the pins stuck in body parts, the knives carving skin, the chains and ropes and countless instances of sexual abuse — all recorded on his violent Web site. Glenn Marcus, the 52-year-old Queens man arrested by the FBI last week for keeping sex slaves and featuring them on a pay-per-view Web site, also used mental torture to control the women, one victim has told told authorities.” (Thanks to alanr for the link.)

 
Comments Total: 61
bizzitch
May 13 2005
10:14 pm

I like this dude’s work. Free Marcus. These women are slaves. Hello? They have a need for more than the physical kink. Any true slave knows that it is a complete lifestyle, they seek. They want their dom to make everyday decisions for them, 24/7.

Go to collarme.com or alt.com for examples.

knkmaitrise
May 15 2005
2:43 pm

Fry the bastard!! He gives a blackmark to the BD/sm Community! Hardly the traits or behavior of a “Master”–Get real!!

Erik
May 15 2005
4:04 pm

Glenn sounds like a pure psychotic idiot. I hope they lock him up so that he can’t do anymore damage than already been done. A life sentence would be too mild for him. Perhaps, he will enjoy the role of a being 24/7 slave himself! Can’t wait to see the pictures of him “serving” while in the the locked up pen!!

uk
May 17 2005
5:43 pm

So, he demanded to be called “god” huh? Looks like “god” needs help from his mommy and daddy? Is that the mighty “god” hiding behind flannel coat?

vampmaster
May 19 2005
11:03 am

I really think if what they say is true he broke ssc, and for that he must be punished.

But I’ve also known a case where after 3/4 years the sub started getting sin remorse after visiting the local preacher, and suddenly turned all that anger into the dom.

What we all knew / seen to be SSC turned into abuse, in just a couple of minutes.

We would need to know the reality in all this.

Vampmaster

jezebel
May 20 2005
5:24 pm

it sounds to me like this guy crossed the line. however, every single thing she’s said he “did to” her could have easily been consensual, and the main problem here is that the news reports all have the precise tone that no one could possibly have consented to these patently sick acts. and we all know that’s not at all the case. people consent to having pins stuck through their pussy lips, having heinous photos of them put on-line–even getting their sisters in on the act.

this guy’s going to have a tough row to hoe if he’s innocent, because the world’s stacked against him from the beginning.

i suppose the hardest thing will be being able to sift through the present feelings of the accuser and whether or not the man’s psychological control over her was actually a crime. how many of his other “slaves” will join her in accusing him? i mean, if she just happens to be a vulnerable sort who succumbed to things she didn’t actually want, but didn’t have the guts to say no to–is that his fault or hers?

if the man has a PhD in philosophy, he presumably has some intellectual power. that might be overwhelming to someone weak. if he misused it, he might be a raging asshole, but is he a rapist?

Chain
May 20 2005
9:07 pm

I happen to know Mr Marcus personally; he has been a friend of mine for years. He has always operated under full and informed consent for all his BDSM activities. All his acts were consentual.

wondering
May 22 2005
2:58 pm

This (below) is from the AOL profile of one of his former slaves. Wonder if the FBI has seen this. She is the one on the left of the picture of two girls linked in the story above. The one being *threatened with the knife”.

For the record, I’d like everyone to know that I have never been a victim of anything. My relationship with my former Master was, for the most part, an amazing and wonderful experience. He opened me up to myself, and I wouldn’t be who I am today without having been with him, *loved* him, and experienced the things that I did.

Lots of people said then, and say now, that much of what he did was abuse. My definition of the boundary between BDSM and abuse is, and always has been, fully informed consent. Once I stopped consenting, he needed to let me go… he did not, unfortunately. But I did wind up leaving, because I’m a strong person and also a majorly stubborn chick.

However I am not now, nor ever was, a VICTIM of anything except what I considered to be a major flaw in his judgement in our final days. What happened after I left, I cannot vouch for one way or the other… I can only speak for myself and say that while I was with him, everything we did was consensual.

I am now engaged to a wonderful man (mr. wonderful, the man of my dreams, the love of my life!), and a small business owner with a home in the country, two fabulous dogs, and an incredible sex life which is still very very alternative, and still 100% consensual.

sincerely,
tamara, aka: doggy

LiddleSlave
May 22 2005
8:37 pm

Utter and complete BS. I spoke with thee man more than once and spoke with the slave who made these charges while she was still happy to be his slave. While he was sadistic and dominant, he was never dishonest. No one was held against their will, in my opinion. This is a clear case of a spurned lover.

Yasser
May 23 2005
8:50 pm

First of All Marcus doesn’t have a PHD, he has a BA in philosophy from LIU South Hampton.
It also said that his only assets were $250 and a 1994 Jeep. He has a comic book collection worth a couple of hundred thousand. His ex-wife Eva Bell and his present g/f Rona Cohen lived with him in an apt in Woodmere before he married Eva. He often forced them to have sex with each other. His daughter Crystal is a producer of the TV Cartoon Yu-Gi-Oh.
He has never written anything of note. He did have a comic book store and when he couldn’t keep up with it, decided to run a mail order business on the internet. He has always been unkempt and dirty looking. He smoked 4 packs of cigarettes a day and was a habitual gambler. His mother was always an arrogant bitch who pampered him. Both of his parents knew he was a bum and knew of his odd lifestyle.
He has always mistreated women and tried to have them support him because of his so-called superior intellect.
In the end his pathetic lifestyle and his fantasy of making money showing sadistic photos on the internet came crashing down on his pitiful existence!

Reverend Taylor
May 27 2005
12:27 pm

In many aspects of the BDSM lifestyle, we find questionable practices, it’s members often questioning themselves and their motives for their actions. This situation seems to be the result of such questioning. I think we should all reserve judgment of this man until the entire story comes out, if it ever does. This situation could easily be as sinister, or as innocent as it appears. From what few pictures that remain available that I have seen the women appear to know what they are doing and appear to be acting under consent. In short they don’t look as though they are being forced into their situation, they look willing and happy to be there.

I think close attention should be paid to this case as it has the potential to set prescendent for further litigation that may be either extremely dangerous to the BDSM comunity and it’s people, or one that will be beneficial. Either way, this type of exposure is always a blight on our lifestyle. If this man is found guilty, wether we all believe him to be or not, it would be imperative that the comunity shun him for our own good, by the same note we need to embrace him heartily if found innocent.

I think the big question here may not be one of consent, but one of exploitation.

Just my thoughts.
Rev. Taylor

Leonard Darling, MD
May 28 2005
3:22 pm

It has come to my attention that Mr. Marcus may be in need of my services. I am therefore using this public venue not only in order to offer him my assistance–but also out of a desire to provide hope for countless other victims of SadoMasochistic Obsession (SMO).

For those who may doubt that Mr. Marcus is suffering from a deeply disturbing, pathological disorder, esp. for those who may instead believe that he is the “problem,” not his disease, I suggest that a cursory glance of the various postings here–and headlines elsewhere–reveal the serious obstacles he confronts in seeking treatment. Note the language that is used. Mr. Marcus is repeatedly referred to as “perv,” “creep,” and “sicko.” Ours is decidedly not an enlightened society, ladies and gentlemen! Whence has compassion fled?

Would we be tempted to deem a man afflicted with gout or leprosy “perv,” “creep,” or “sicko”? Yet, when it comes to mental illness, disease of the MIND, we turn our backs coldly–shun and penalize the patient.

Should Mr. Marcus and hordes of others like him be consigned to federal institutions? Should they be housed in the same quarters with criminals, perpetrators of theft and fraud? These are among the questions we must ask ourselves before passing judgment. Prior to that critical moment when we render a decision concerning the fate of another human being, we must examine the facts! And the facts are these:

1) Mr. Marcus is diseased;

2) He is but one of thousands–if not millions–of Americans suffering from SMO; indeed, there is nothing “unique” or “special” about him.

If it is our wish to create a healthy society, we must cease to castigate the mentally ill. We must recognize that the pain they endure is every bit as real as any other.

Sincerely,

Leonard Darling, MD

“And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.” –Beatles

Sheila Lasker
May 29 2005
5:49 pm

Glenn’s claim to fame was his large male endowment. He convinced women that big was better and his was the biggest and therefore he was the best. He was a wimp among men and a he-man amongst women. He basically was a lazy bum who was waiting for his parents to pass away. That is what he saw as his financially secure future.
He was content to wait and in the meantime he was divising immature ways to hustle a few bucks. Nickle and diming comicbook sales, trying to get lucky and win a few bucks gambling and lastly trying to get perverts to pay him to see pictures of what he tried to portray as bizarre on the internet. His real punishment should be to get a real job and his parents should exclude him from any financial benefits on their passing.
And Glenn don’t come here posting in your cause and pretending to be someone else. Aren’t you the clever one!

Skittles
Jun 3 2005
1:02 am

I know GM personally, in fact I had the opportunity to come and serve him.

it was all consentual. In fact i Know the girls well enough to figure out who the hell did squawk. And no an AOL profile doesn’t protect her.

it was consentual, she agreed to it..now everyone needs to get over it and let him go. They were slaves and treated as such and they choose to be that way.

Duece
Jun 3 2005
10:25 am

“An AOL profile doesn’t protect her?” Why would she need protection now that GM is on house arrest?

I know GM personally, and he has always been delusional with sociopathic behaviors.

lilkitty
Jun 17 2005
3:48 pm

“In fact i Know the girls well enough to figure out who the hell did squawk. And no an AOL profile doesn’t protect her.”

If you are refering to the AOL profile referenced above the author did no “squawking” and while she may have her differences with GM she does not agree with what is currently going.

tanya
Jun 19 2005
6:39 pm

i am NOT a friend, nor am i a cohort of GM’s.

This said, i would like to speak of this community as comparable to the community of ‘christianity’.

jesus was nailed to a cross for “our” sins. (let’s suppose this righteous guy KNEW what sins were and he chose to hang for them…. is that idiotic or am i off-base here?)

yet you LIVE by, TEACH by, COERCE by, BLAME by, PUNISH by, “his” martyrdom of ‘our’ sins.

was jesus not capable of deciding his plight (he could have run, doncha think) for himself or did he employ followers such as many of yourselves (i’m sure) have. he employeed no one, it was YOUR choice, christians.

do i follow christianity? no

do i follow GM’s beliefs? no.

did GM inflict his beliefs on anyone? no.

did jesus? no.

and you choose to punish someone that had agreement of consentuality?

so you’re following suit, eh? so YOU would’ah nailed your jesus to the cross, it’s quite obvious.. and why? answer that.

so jesus walked 40 days’n 40 nights thru a desert (after deserting his own people.. yes.. he LEFT his people) eatin’ peyote button and became enlightented and some dudes called ‘apolstles’ wrote about him how many years later and you LIVE BY THIS? and call it a BIBLE?

and you punish GM.

stand in judgement of your own hypocisy, then stand in judgement of GM.

Question the him/her that stood up to the plate with GM and most likely begged to be by his side.

my theory is and has always been …. “if you choose to be in the arena, prepare yourself for the consequences”.

i most certainly am sure he/she did.

his website? yes, it is blunt.

so is your bible

please respond with something reasonable.

GM gets a bond, your jesus gets vinegar.

you worship your jesus, you annihilate GM.

is something wrong with this system?

i’d really appreciate a reasonable response.

~tanya

Chain
Jun 20 2005
12:30 am

Hi Tanya,
I have posted previously here but you ask for a reply so here goes. Unlike you, I AM a friend to Mr Marcus; I know he acted with 100% consent in his BDSM activities because I was a willing participant in those acts and lifestyle. Everything I have ever done with him has had my full and informed consent.

To summarize, it seems to me that you compare his problems to what Jesus faced; suggesting that he is being persecuted for others doings. And it didnt seem to me that you only meant the woman accusing him. I also got the idea that you felt that those who lambast him commit the same “sin” as he did…involvement in the BDSM lifestyle. If I read your post correctly.

I realize and know that not everyone will share His views on D/s; he IS extreme, and people are certainly entitled not to aggree or like it. They are NOT entitled, however, and that is what many are doing, to say that because Mr.Marcus’s style is not a preference of theirs, NO ONE can possibly consent or like what Mr Marcus does. That is where you are seeing others hypocracy. Its the old “my kink is OK but YOURS is not” phenomenon.

Yes, Mr Marcus never inflicted his beliefs on anyone, you know it as do I…but these OTHERS can not possibly believe there was consent, frankly, because THEY would never consent to such. So he IS being punished for aggreements of consensuality as you suggest, and that IS ironic.

Mr Marcus as martyr…yes, because what happens to him may well set legal precedent in many areas and aspects of BDSM, issues of consent and obscenity may certainly be addressed. And law decided here will have an impact on others.

I intend to stand by his side and give him my full support. I would hope that the entirety of the BDSM community would, if only for the selfish reason that THEY could be next.

I do have an issue with you calling what we do “sin”, as “sin” implies a transgression against a divine power. It implies an act that is wrong, or bad. And thats not how Id wish to characterize D/s, or BDSM, or any alternate lifestyles.

Sincerely,
Chain

yasser
Jun 25 2005
8:10 am

Comparing Marcus to Christ is perverse. Marcus was involved in self satisfation, with little regard to his victim(s). Was it a two way avenue with Marcus also being brutally abused?
Maybe this egotist will appreciate being victimized once he is in prison! Suicide is consensual….is it not against the law, and the rites of religion? Madness has no justification. A persons actions should be held up to accountability and if judged by society as being deviant must face the consequences of their wrongs. Marcus will be more closely associated to Charles Manson then to Jesus Christ.

Chain
Jun 25 2005
6:24 pm

Hello Yasser…
Some few things to refute your post. First off, where there is stated consent to an act, there is NO abuse. I have never been abused by Mr Marcus in any way shape or form.

If someone gave me flowers and I didnt not wish it and did not consent to it, THAT could be abuse. The ACT is not relevant…the issue of CONSENT to that act is what matters.

You then state “a persons actions should be held up to accountability and if judged by society as being deviant must face the consequences of their wrongs.”

So, you feel that might makes right? The popularity of a view is the correct opinion? Yasser, society changes its mores and values from decade to decade. By corralary to what you have written, you appear to feel that society is correct, and we then should abide by its codes. So, lets take a society and examine it.

In 1930s Germany, the prevalent social view was very hostile to Jews. Thus to you, the deviant one would be the Righteous Gentile who saved Jews from the horrors of the Holocaust. In my view, this person acted with honor and with goodness, according to THEIR morality, not that of society. Same could be said for US culture, 1840s. Non consensual slavery was the popular view…but that didnt make it a correct view.

One should be true to ones own ideals and ones own self. One of the many things I admire about Mr Marcus was that I felt he was indeed true to himself. Society may deem an act wrong or bad….that doesnt mean the act OBJECTIVELY is wrong, and that certainly doesnt mean that those who wish to do said act should be banned from it. This is assuming said acts are consensual and harm none against their will and wish.

Sincerely,
chain

Yasser
Jun 26 2005
7:28 am

Chain,

Please go ask your priest, minister, monk or rabbi what his opinion of Marcus is. Ask an attorney, doctor, professor, congressman, or business professional also. There will not be more than 1% of society who will believe as you do that consensual torture is tolerable. This is not nazi germany, and 2 wrongs don’t make a right. This is also not a case of self defense. This is a case of cruelty, egotism, greed, and perversion. Your comments will not persuade anyone into agreeing with your views. Marcus is going to be found guilty and will be incarcerated for many years to come. It will be a lesson to other so-called “masters” or “gods” that taking advantage of weak minded individuals will never be accepted by the parents, brothers and sisters, or relatives of these victims.

Chain
Jun 26 2005
4:01 pm

Hello Yasser
Again you seem to feel that if a view is held popularly, it is a correct view. Upon the advent of germ theroy, physicians who washed their hands before surgery were ridiculed by peers for their belief. Yet they persisted, and eventually the existence of bacteria was proven beyond a doubt. According to you it appears youd have had them desist in their pursuits, as the vast majority felt their beliefs ludicrous.

YOU may feel consensual torture is non tolerable…thats fine. DONT do it then. I feel that what two adults may choose to do with and to each other is fine, so long as their is informed consent to the act.

No this is NOT Nazi Germany…but if it WAS, would you aggree with the prevailing opinion simply because it was the predominant opinion? Or would your own individuality surface?

I realize the popular opinion is against many forms of BDSM. It may even be against what YOU may like, Yasser. There are people who may feel what YOU may do, whatever that may be, to be perverse.

There are people who consent to having their chest cut open, their ribs broken and their beating heart toyed with. But society deems it OK, as those people who do that are called “cardiothoracic surgeons”. Its not the ACT, its the context and the consent that makes a difference.

I dont decide what my morals and values are by popular vote. I feel adults have the right to act as they wish with each other, even to doing acts which I may feel are dangerous. I dont have to like an act to support others freedom TO that act.

As I have stated, what society feels is ever changing. Id rather be true to myself. So, I dont care if my dr hates it, my lawyer thinks Im a nut, or my rabbi thinks Im meshugunah. And no, no one else has to aggree, or like it.

Sincerely
chain

Erik
Jun 26 2005
6:33 pm

“Comparing Marcus to Christ is perverse. Marcus was involved in self satisfation, with little regard to his victim(s). Was it a two way avenue with Marcus also being brutally abused?
Maybe this egotist will appreciate being victimized once he is in prison!”……”This is a case of cruelty, egotism, greed, and perversion. Your comments will not persuade anyone into agreeing with your views. Marcus is going to be found guilty and will be incarcerated for many years to come.”….WELL SAID!!!

It will be interesting to see if he trys to plea bargain to save his ass. If he is true to his convictions, he will stand up and fight for what he believes is right, regardless of the cost or potential consequences, right? My guess is that he doesn’t have the balls given that he has survived on preying on those more vulnerable. He has never held down a job for any lengthy period of time, nor has he been socially responsible, all of which are consistent with him being nothing more than an intelligent sociopath. Truly, the guy is not able to function in society. Hell, this guy has to totally depend on his “slaves” or his “mother and dad” for his financial and living arrangements, as he doesn’t have his own place and can’t hold down a job.

I think the main issue in this case is not what was consented to, but his actions after any consent was withdrawn as noted by the post by one of his ex-slaves on another bulletin board…”Perhaps you should allow my words to speak for themselves instead of speculating. Had you known me well enough at the time, you would’ve known the circumstances of my leaving, as yes indeed I was held against my will. I have no reason to believe he got better after I left… rather I believe he got worse. All the same I have no desire to be involved; my part in this is so over to me…..”

Sincerely,
doggy

Note the line…”you would’ve known the circumstances of my leaving, as yes indeed I was held against my will.” That statement does NOT reflect consent, no matter how you try to argue.

Also, given that he allegely threatened to blackmail by publicly expose and those who tried to leave him is NOT consistent with consentual, but rather simple coercion! If this is true, I don’t see any leg he has to stand on in the courtroom, nor should he have one.

Due to the fact of the involvement of the FBI, and the charges which include: sex trafficking, forced labor, and distributing obscene material for profit…I don’t think the FBI would devote that much time and resources to a simple “he-said she-said case”.

At any rate, given that he is the all knowing “God” (as he referenced himself as which is perhaps simple a sign of his borderine grandiose/delusional state), and even God knows for every action there is a consequence, any time he serves in the Federal pen will be by his own “consent”! A perfect place for the guy.

Yasser
Jun 26 2005
9:42 pm

“It will be interesting to see if he trys to plea bargain to save his ass”. My prediction would be that either he takes the plea bargain of 5 years or goes to trial and ends up with a 15 year sentence being convicted by a jury of his peers.

Chain, your statements about Nazi Germany are insane. First of all 20% of the population were Jews. The majority of germans did not agree with persecuting the Jews, But, the people in power forced them to comply. They had the military enforcing their decrees.

Taking advantage of the vulnerable even when consensual is not a characteristic or trait to be proud of! We need to take care of the meek and the weak and not take advantage of them.

If Marcus refused to let his victim move on after she had requested so, then all the charges he is accused of are indeed true….Even if someone gives consent at one time, that does not imply eternal compliance. You can borrow my car today, if you take it tomorrow morning when I have to go to work without my permission, I will call the police and report it stolen.

DAVE
Jul 7 2005
7:15 pm

I hope they FRY the bastard. He looks uglier than fat ass Michael Moore

seafood
Jul 17 2005
10:15 pm

I am a former friend of Glenn Marcus and haven’t had any contact with him for years. I knew his daughter, an exceptionally wonderful girl despite some of her fathers shortcomings, and girlfriends including Rona and another unmentioned GF who was really sweet and probably for my money, one of the best things that ever happened to Glenns life. As far as I can remember, Glenn associated with some emotionally damaged (to one degree or another) people, and occasionally enjoyed making shocking statements, he boasted often of outrageous things and always seemed to be upset when people would not beleive him. I have no doubt he sank neck deep into a lifestyle I consider distasteful, in fact, his boasting of this especially in inappropriate environments and situations was one of the major contributing factors in my putting our friendship behind us. Please note that I do not hate Glenn, but pity him. I truly feel for all his intelligence he could not control his curious compulsions completely, however, if he is the man I remember, he probably got cocky and felt too confident that consentual meant untouchable, and pissed off the wrong person one day, and is now paying the price. His tale is a cautionary tale for everyone, not just those involved in alternative lifestyles, but those who place trust in others when they are doing things they would not want announced on the 5 o’clock news. My largest beef with the media in this case is that they mentioned by name at least one innocent party, and that is his daughter, whom to the best of my knowlege had no part of this lifestyle, was not only mentioned by name, but had her career placed in the limelight and possibly in danger by irresponsible reporters who dont much seem to care whose lives they damage in getting a juicy story. My apologies to you Crystal on everyones behalf for the way you have been treated, I always thought you were a very special girl who deserved a happy and carefree life. You dont deserve any of the things I have seen happen to you through the years, and you certainly don’t deserve this. Wherever you are, I hope you are able to get past this unhappy time in your life and continue life happily with your husband. All my best.

justcurious
Jul 27 2005
8:36 pm

I had been in contact with Glenn, infrequently. I came across this story online shortly after Glenn’s arrest, and have been checking these posts for current news regarding the case. Does anyone know what’s happening?

tanya
Aug 10 2005
7:40 pm

Chains,

i think you totally took my comments out of context or misread their intent.

>>I also got the idea that you felt that those who lambast him commit the same “sin” as he did…

Subnbellle@aol.com
Aug 10 2005
8:17 pm

Chains,

this is tanya. the entirity of my post is not being shown, i’m no computer genuis, suffice it to say.

i think you totally took my comments out of context or misread their intent.

>>I also got the idea that you felt that those who lambast him commit the same “sin” as he did…

Subnbellle@aol.com
Aug 10 2005
8:31 pm

well my post is stopping where it’s stopping and i guess that’s that. i had a lot more ta say, you’re welcome to IM or email me @ Subnbellle@aol.com. i agree with you was the bottom line, my intentions didn’t come through in a passive aggressive devil’s advocatation forum, my presentation was lame, perhaps,

i know GM, spoke with him on the phone, was invited to his place to pierce, would have in a heartbeat had if i didn’t have a shop to run, and i don’t put myself in harm’s way, i know his integrity.

it may not match up with everyone elses, but integrity is personal, not a product of society’s expectations or to be inflicted on anyone, and he POSTED HIS EXPECTATIONS IN LIVING COLOR on his site, he didn’t live a secret life.

i agree he’s being lambasted by those that stand in judgment, my comparison was to simply make that clear…either throw stones at the participants in the same venue… i mean JESUS DIDN’T HAVE TA GET ON THAT DAMN CROSS, and GMS SLAVES DIDN’T HAVE TA DO A THANG THEY DIDN’T AGREE TOO, DO THEY LOOK LIKE THEY GOTTA GUN AT THEIR HEAD? or stop hurlin’ ‘em, period.

i happen to agree with you, my verbosity and communication skills, lacking. maybe i made a poor choice of comparison and maybe this post’ll go thru.

as a participant in the D/s arena (when i gotta guy which ain’t been happnin’ lately, dammit) and i agree with GM… choose wisely, KNOW the arena you’re stepping into, if you’re willing to hand over control, make that decision carefully, capably, he agrees. he preaches it.

… and we were not in his realm, or was it THEIR realm, or a realm of complementary needs, at best, consentual, at least.

my point was … stop crucifyin’ others for participating in acts that you worhip others for. maybe i should shaddup before i dig myself further.

anyway, if this goes thru, get in touch me if you wish, if not… I GIVE UP !

~tanya

Submissive Ophelia
Aug 15 2005
12:14 pm

This person, called himself “God” contacted me a few years back. He wanted me for his website. I spoke with him in detail to find out what he was like. Of course my instincts were right: he is a sicko. How did I figure it out? When he told me that my model escort could not attend with me a photo shoot for MY SAFETY. Any person that does not allow my security to attend a shoot is obviously hiding something. Ladies: if you model, bring somebody with you for YOUR SAFETY. If the person offering the shoot does not permit it, they are hiding something. If I went, who knows what could have happened to me? I am in the BDSM lifestyle and have always been SSC and never had a problem

joe mcmillan
Aug 31 2005
12:37 am

i feel inocent until proven guilty i want to see what they have first before saying hes quilty but if hhe is then he should go to jail if not a sorry should be given

Leonard Darling, MD
Oct 5 2005
1:25 pm

Having recently taken up residence in England–rooms at Carfax Abbey, to be precise–I have been understandably distracted and am only now reviewing the case of Mr. Glen Marcus. It has occurred to me that it bears many similarities with that of a Mr. Renfield, a former patient of mine, who some years ago also found himself suffering from legal and spiritual woes.

In treating said Mr. Renfield, I developed a radical plan of action whereby–after a detailed discussion of his morbid SadoMasochistic Obsession (SMO)–I administered ever-increasing voltages of electricity. In short order, I discovered that, although Mr. Renfield’s condition did not noticeably improve, I felt much better. I could think far more clearly and soon revised his treatment program to include a wider variety of curative activities, as will be seen from the following excerpts from my soon to be published “Medical Diaries” (forthcoming spring 2006, Simon and Schuster):

June 7, 1816 (c. 2:00 A.M.)

Bound subject Renfield, hand and foot. Caused subject to be chained behind private coach and thence transported to Stratford-upon-Avon where I enjoyed an evening’s viewing of “Taming of the Shrew.” After this remarkable performance, resumed treatment of subject Renfield with zest of a hound!

June 18 (5:30 P.M.)

Immediately following a hearty breakfast consisting of steak-and-kidney pie, kippers, tea, and buttered scones, I strolled to the stable to discover subject Renfield complained of having slept poorly during the previous week. Proceeded to instruct him in the proper use of the cat o’ nine tails, smarting him roundly, before hoisting head-long to hay loft.

June 30 (10:15 A.M.)

Returned to London, having stopped along the way for a jolly romp at the Goose and Firkin. Rain, rain, and more rain! Found subject Renfield–muddy–more sullen than usual, given to bouts of futile rage. Tightened leather bindings, caused subject to be removed to basement laboratory. Called late at the house of Mme. Bouvoir.

July 14 (c. 8:00 P.M.)

Anticipating Le Grand Fete on the occasion of the French holiday, sacrificially determined to persist in salvation of subject Renfield. Noted weight loss, unkempt appearance, but improved adherence to commands. Prescribed change in diet to include small felines. Contemplated wardrobe.

August 3 (9:45 P.M.)

Subject Renfield nearing completion of his program of treatment. Condition weakening, manner dull. Caused subject to be prepared for surgery the following day. Returned to my guests.

August 7 (1:36 A.M.)

Discovered subject Renfield patiently awaiting my attentions. Removed restrictive artifices and surgical gauze. Performed meticulous, doubtless humiliating post-operative examination. Patient released without delay, never to transgress again.

* * *

As you can see from the above, in a scant two months, I succeeded in sparing the subject further suffering from SMO. Mr. Marcus, rest assured, I am fully prepared to provide the same quality of service for you! All that you–and the many, many others exactly like you–need do is make the right decision. It is but a simple, albeit momentous, action of the mind; still, if you require my assistance in making your selection, please do not hesitate to call upon me.

Sincerely,

Leonard Darling, M.D.

“One toke over the line, Sweet Jesus!”
–Brewer & Shipley

Ellie
Oct 6 2005
12:34 pm

LOL I love you Leo, errrr, excuse me, I love you Leonard Darling M.D. May I PLEASE PLEASE be your assisting nurse during your treatment of Glenn Moron Marcus. I will be sure to administer all treatments you order and, believe me, many many more of my own. LOL

Leonard Darling, MD
Oct 6 2005
10:41 pm

My dear Ellie,

Although your expression of loyalty and considerable commitment to the mental health of others is deeply appreciated, I must quickly protest in that the posting dated October 5, 2005, was NOT–repeat NOT–written by me but by an imposter, nay, a poseur, an adroit pathological liar who is, himself, currently under treatment for SMO.

Imagine my chagrin when I discovered, only this morning, that someone had usurped my good name and credentials. Members of my profession are accustomed to the occasional outburst from unruly patients, periodic episodes in which misfortunate dysfunctionals attempt to seek gratification by lambasting, assaulting our reputations. This particular instance, however, is unparalleled in the anals of the science of the mind! Even my attorney was appalled.

Lest some readers hesitate, perhaps even doubt my veracity, let me point to a few specific details that will surely prove that the wretched posting dated October 5 could not, in fact, have been penned by a physician of my caliber. First, note the keen self-absorption evident in the entries from the so-called “Medical Diaries.” What doctor, I ask, would conflate his social life with his observations of a patient? What serious practioner of the medical arts would so blatantly ignore even this modicum of decency?

Again, my dearest Ellie, it is clear that you have a sincere desire to serve Mr. Glenn Marcus and the hordes of others like him–those whose daily anguish expresses itself, sometimes mutely, sometimes vociferously, in the variegated, tortured forms of SadoMasochistic Obsession (SMO). Nevertheless, please allow me to caution you against the assumption that everything you encounter via public internet exchange is as sincere as you are.

Warmly,

Leonard Darling, M.D.

“License to Chill”
–Jimmy Buffett

seafood
Oct 23 2005
1:55 am

interesting how everyone lined up to either attack or defend Glenn Marcus, but no one had the strength of character to acknowledge what I had discussed earlier, which was how shamefully people acted by bringing his daughter and family into this matter. If you complain about GM and villify him without acknowledging your own fault in mentioning people who should not have their lives ruined by this, you are a bigger hypocrite for not having the courage and descency to do so. Frankly, I have no respect for anyones opinion that seems only to demand GM’s blood at any cost, even those who are innocent. You are some sad people to obsess over this man, and wallow in your own hatred and negativity. Let the people involved worry about their own lives, let the courts decide GM’s fate and apologize to those who were mentioned unfairly.

Chain
Oct 31 2005
1:50 am

I aggree that it is indeed shameful for others to accuse Mr.Marcus of ruining the lives of innocents while they themselves drag unwilling others into the mire of their malicious gossip.

I find many things about this case and situation very bitterly ironic. Essentially, the government is doing to him and to the women involved or potentially involved virtually everything it states HE did. Again, I state for the record, all HE did was consensual.

He is accused of confining women. Yet, there He sits confined in house arrest. And he is NOT consenting to it. But the government feels its the “good guy” here.

He is accused of blackmail (?????) I intend to defend him as I can, and will be more than happy to testify on his behalf if called. But, I will no longer have privacy; the govt by accusing him (falsely) has essentially forced me to divulge my tastes and sexual preferences in defending this man whom I firmly feel to be 100% innocent on these charges. I am VERY willing to do it, as I feel its immoral (on many levels) to NOT defend this innocent man…but I never should have been placed in the position where it was needed. I truly feel it is a form of blackmail brought by the government; if I chose to be silent and not be involved/ testify (if called to), Mr. Marcus might potentially indeed suffer adversely from the lack of juror awareness of the very positive things I would say.

The hypocracy is immense. I feel for his family deeply. I feel for all involved.

And if anyone has information regarding Glenn Marcus relevant to his legal situation please call his attorneys Maurice Sercarz or Julia Gatto at the law firm of Sercarz and Riopelle at 1-212-586-4900

Sincerely,
chain

Sheila
Oct 31 2005
11:39 pm

Seafood,

I agree with you about bringing in the name of his daughter Crystal who had nothing whatsoever to do with any of this. As for your remark “Glenn associated with some emotionally damaged (to one degree or another)” I would also like to concur. There was a friend whom GM admired, she was a psychologist. She was the ultimate hypocrite. He eventually believed that if you can get away with it, then it was justified and eventually all will be forgotten. And even though she had lost her license to practice for a year, she continued to live in the same dual standard world that she had created.
GM is exactly the same. No mistakes, just two sets of rules.

Just Curiously Strong
Nov 12 2005
11:39 pm

I see a post mentioning GMyourGod “I expect he respected the slave’s safeword.”

GM allowed no safewords.

I see a post “I spoke with him on the phone and almost met him. He is a good person.”

Keyword: Almost

I see a post: “I played with him, scened with him, etc, but not as a full slave. He was great, no problems.”

REALITY: He was fine until the any of the slaves announced that they had had enough and wanted out. When they stopped consenting, GM freaked out and caged them, threatened them and their families, harrassed them directly and through other slaves. Note that he was TRULY incensed and desperate when an “earning” slave wanted to leave. I suspect he let slaves go freely if they werent the slave providing his income with website or having a car to drive him around.

Besides a fine imagination and desire to enslave women on his low-budget, Glenn Marcus is far from a true self confident and self controlled “Master.”

I doubt he deserves the long prison term a mainstream jury will give him in disgust, but I am sure he will get just that. A man with that demeanor, frailty of 4 packs of cigs a day, and that resume will surely die from his treatment in prison…and be thankful for his own release.

Chain
Nov 17 2005
12:26 am

Hello Curious:
I have to confess. I myself am curious as to just how you know the REALITY of the situation as you so boldly proclaim. Were YOU there? If not, then, truly, you really shouldn’t place credence in what you heard from your friends grandmothers first cousin, online chat rooms, or newspaper articles that discuss the ALLEGATIONS.

Lets say the word together, and ponder its meaning: “all-e-gations”. A statement asserting something **without proof***. As in, “the newspapers charges of official wrongdoings were mere allegations.”

Unless you were there, these allegations you are repeating is HERESAY, mere gossip that has no truthful standing. And even if you spoke to the woman involved, (rather unlikely, as all you are doing is repeating tales you heard online and in papers) and posted what she claims, that still is hearsay, as she is apparently approaching this situation with her own views and her own agenda, neither of which approximate ANYTHING close to the actual truth.

In summation:
HERESAY: Everything you have said is based on rumor. You never actually met him.
REALITY: All the allegations are lies. I know because I have met him, and actually know him.

Chain

ComicCustomer
Nov 18 2005
4:36 am

I knew Glen from his comic store years ago, but never knew how sick he had become.

Check for prior psychiatric treatment on Glenn and you will find it. Psychiatrists create these problems they do not cure them. Any time you find a violent crime you will find the person was “treated” by psychiatrists BEFORE the crime was committed.

Psychiatry is the greatest fraud of all time, they actually create insanity with their drugs, duress, shock treatment, etc.

Glenn is a prime example of the product that psychiatry produces.

Ellie
Nov 19 2005
1:39 am

no offense meant to you ComicCustomer, but you are sounding much like Tom Cruise. For many people, psychiatry and the medications today do wonders for people. But I will not argue with you. You have a right to your beliefs.

One thing I will argue with is your comment that “Glenn is a prime example of the product that psychiatry produces”

Unless he was forced at some time in his early life I would almost guarantee that Glenn Marcus never saw a psychiatrist in his life, for two reasons.

One being, that he has no money of his own, and psychiatry is expensive lol. Scond and most importantly, Glenn Marcus is a man with Narcissistic Personality Disorder. He has no idea that there is anything wrong with him so therefore why would he ever need therapy? He thinks he is perfectly normal.

Please don’t blame anyone or anything for Glenn Marcus. His parents aren’t to blame, nobody is to blame. The only one to blame for Glenn Marcus is Glenn Marcus.

ComicCustomer
Nov 19 2005
4:03 pm

His parents have plenty of money and yes, it was early in his life that he was forced as most victims of psychiatry are.

Also did you know that Glenn did LSD over 400 times?

And LSD is another gift to mankind given to us by psychiatry.

So yes, he is a product of psychiatry, this is a fact.

And yes, I agree that this doesn’t make him not to blame for his own situation, but he had help.

“Psychiatric help” which is an oxymoron!

Leonard Darling, MD
Nov 19 2005
5:08 pm

Putting remonstrations and indignities aside, for the nonce, I find myself compelled–and not for the first time, may I assure you–to defend my profession against the savage ignorance sadly prevalent in our society. Psychiatry is, most certainly, not a “fraud” (much less the greatest of all time), and psychiatrists do not “create insanity.”

Be it admitted that madness is possibly the oldest affliction of mankind–nigh onto its primal call–whereas psychiatry is but a mere babe in the arms of Science. While, as dear Ellie notes, it is unjust to blame either the victim of mental illness, his family, his friends or associates, it is equally unjust, and more importantly inaccurate, to cast aspersions on the very form of medicine devoted to the amelioration of such woes. To do so, indeed, ComicCustomer, irresistibly calls into question one’s own psycho-emotional well-being, in addition to one’s intellectual acumen.

Believe me, no man or woman previously sound of mind has left my office in a condition remotely similar to that of Glenn Marcus. Financial circumstances aside, Mr. Marcus represents a very broad pathological “type” inasmuch as he is the living embodiment of SadoMasochistic Obsession (SMO). The etiology of this recent pandemic is poorly understood, albeit, from an epistemological standpoint, it would seem most rationally the result of a distinct deterioration in male/female relations. Although it is true that many dedicated members of the profession have expressed delight in the positive results often achieved through chemistry, few would concede that drugs, alone, will suffice. This, Ladies and Gentlemen, is a SOCIETAL problem–possibly pointing to the proximate extinction of the species.

It is, nevertheless, not yet too late. Providing those suffering from the more severe symptoms of SMO seek treatment–and that they are not, by the larger community, condemned to dusty shelves in our penal institutions verily unto as if they were mere old tea-cups–hope remains. It is time to return to our senses, to call for a cessation of the modern “Witch Hunt.” Glenn Marcus, whether or not he unwittingly believes he is “your God” or that “you’re God,” desperately needs professional assistance–need I say, “help”? And many forms of treatment are available to him, his impecuniosity notwithstanding.

Sincerely,

Leonard Darling, M.D.

“Gotta walk before they make me run.”
–Keith Richard(s)

ComicCustomer
Nov 19 2005
7:37 pm

Here are the facts as they relate to how Psychiatry helped to mold Glenn into
what he became:

Fact one: Psychiatry is not a science
U.S. Surgeon General admits diagnoses of mental disorders is not science.
http://www.healthfree.com/paa0046.htm

Fact two: Psychiatry teaches that man is an animal
http://www.boards2go.com/boards/board.cgi?action=read&id=1117334862&user=DBDouble

This is where Glenn got the idea that it’s ok to treat people like animals.

Fact three: The re-interpretation and eventual eradication of the concept of right
and wrong are the belated objectives of nearly all psychotherapy.
http://www.geocities.com/abcolombo/edu/index2.htm

Glenn was taught to believe there is no right or wrong. I know this first hand
as Glenn once told me he believed there is no right and wrong and “Do what thy wilt”.

Fact four: Psychiatric drugs cause violent behavior
http://www.uhuh.com/education/drugskill.htm

Glenn took many Psychiatric drugs in the course of his life, including as I said
LSD more then 400 times.

So, this is the type of product Psychiatry creates and then gets insurance
companies and governments to pay them to destroy our society.
http://www.demonbuster.com/zchilddrug.html
http://www.psychassault.org/Funding/show_me.html

Steve
Nov 24 2005
12:06 pm

For all who are reading,

Marcus was taking lithium in his late teens and early 20’s for a chemical imbalance.

As for LSD, he took it 1 time and freaked completely out!

If he proclaimed anything else, he was a liar.
He was never on street drugs!
His biggest problem was always his inflated ego.
Someone once described him as a “brilliant moron”.

ComicCustomer
Nov 24 2005
3:33 pm

Yes, I know about his early and later Psychiatric
“treatment” which only made him worse.

Violence and Psychiatric Drugs
http://ritalindeath.com/Violence-Drugs.htm

And yes, I know he was a liar, he may of lied
to me, but he also could of lied to you about
his LSD use. But the point is he learned
to be a liar from Psychiatrists

Psychiatrists Lie
http://home.earthlink.net/~bazillion/ruin.html
http://h11.protectedsite.net/index.cfm/7055

tamara... doggy
Dec 8 2005
1:33 am

Utterly *fascinating* watching so many people who don’t even know this man, claiming to know what drugs he took as a teenager and how much… c’mon people GROW UP… the truth of this is that he and I had a bad break up and that is all. It was over for me SIX YEARS ago and I never wished him harm over it. The government is using him as an EXAMPLE as part of Bush’s Obscenity Prosecution Task Force, which is targeting specifically BDSM websites. Another site in Conn. was just raided a few days ago. This affects everyone in the community. If you’re not in the community, why not shut up anyways?

Sheesh.

PS… Hey Belle! :)

Leslie
Dec 20 2005
5:51 am

I too am interested in investigating proper treatment of SMO individuals. Let me know what kind of treatment you think best, and keep me informed as to the results of any of the clinical trials.

Has it been difficult finding willing participants for your studies? Do you treat people with comorbid disorders? I think I know someone who might qualify as a good candidate– She certainly shows all of the symptoms, accoding to DSM IV. You may have even been the one to diagnose her.

Thank you for sharing any relevant updates in your current research– Your patients appreciate your sense of humor about the subject, i’m sure.

Leslie
Dec 20 2005
5:55 am

My previous post should have been addressed to Leonard Darling, MD.

Comic Customer
Jan 6 2006
5:02 pm

If you really want to know what kind of teatment Psychiatrists offer. Here is a list:

Drugs
http://www.liquidtodd.com/news/newsandviews/psych_drugs.html

Electric Shock
http://www.banshock.org/

Brain Operations
http://www.sntp.net/lobotomy/lobotomy.htm

Yes, this is harm in the name of help
http://www.psychassault.org/Funding/treating.html

Leslie
Jan 7 2006
1:49 pm

Comic Customer,
Thanks for the links, but as Dr. Darling knows, I am far more interested in behavioral therapy. Of course, Dr. Darling believes that most behaviorists neglect more important cognitive aspects, and this may be true. However, I am quite decided now where my interests lie!
Thanks again for the links, CC,

Leslie

DARCY
Jan 22 2006
12:05 pm

Hi All… Did something change around here?… It doesn’t look the same.

LRB
Mar 7 2006
3:49 pm

its been a while since i heard anything about the case against Glenn Marcus. can anyone tell me what is going on?

Princess Ariel
May 24 2006
12:06 am

I posted earlier with another name..not sure what that is now.

To answer the questions..nothing has changed..nearly a year later and He is still under house arrest.

Shoshannah
Dec 7 2006
12:20 am

Take a look at the following letter from the “Government” (that is, the legal team prosecuting Glenn Marcus. They are requesting that the witnesses against Marcus be allowed to conceal their identities, denying him his right to confrontation. Get this: they’re suggesting the witnesses need to be protected _from the BDSM community_, as if the community were some sort of mafia that attacks people who pose a danger to their rights.

The letter acknowledges that the case against Marcus may actually pose a danger to the sexual freedom of BDSMers. . .

An excerpt from a Government letter dated 10/27/2006, available from public records:

The limited protections requested by the government are
necessary and appropriate to protect the witnesses’ safety and well-being, avoid potential harassment of the witnesses by the press and others, and prevent undue embarrassment and other adverse consequences, such as loss of employment.
[snip]

In addition, Marcus’s arrest and prosecution has prompted heated debate online among members of the BDSM community and others, some of whom see the government’s prosecution as oppressive and a threat to their sexual freedom. These individuals could similarly view the witnesses’ testimony for the government as offensive and wrong, which could lead to retaliation against the witnesses. [boldface added by poster]

Comic Customer
Mar 6 2007
6:05 pm

http://www.nypost.com/seven/03062007/news/regionalnews/sex_slave_supremo_is_guilty_regionalnews_stefanie_cohen.htm

SEX-SLAVE SUPREMO IS GUILTY
By STEFANIE COHEN

GLENN MARCUS
http://www.nypost.com/seven/03062007/photos/news009.jpg

Faces life sentence.March 6, 2007 — A man who tortured a “sex slave” then forced her to maintain a Web site filled with depraved images of her bleeding and bruised body was convicted of sex trafficking and forced labor yesterday in Brooklyn federal court.

Glenn Marcus – who sources said turned down a plea deal for no jail time – faces up to life in prison for the crimes.

A seven-man, five-woman jury deliberated for seven days before finding Marcus, 53, guilty of the two charges. They acquitted him of an obscenity charge he faced stemming from the graphic images depicted on his slavespace.com Web site.

Marcus, a chubby, balding man with thick glasses, showed no emotion as the jury forewoman read the verdict.

After the jury left the courtroom, Marcus spoke to a meek-looking woman in the courtroom who sources said was one of his current “slaves.” He told her: “It’s a victory in one sense,” apparently in reference to the acquittal on the obscenity charge. Friends say Marcus refused the plea deal because he saw his case as a First Amendment issue.

He will remain out on $1 million bail until his sentencing.

Chain
Mar 18 2007
6:45 pm

Hello all…
I have been reading with some interest these posts
regarding Glenn Marcus. I DO know him, personally. I have met him in person,
and was involved in a fully consensual submissive BDSM relationship with him
since 2003. Of course, since recent events, contact has been somewhat altered. I
know full well that he did not do anything against anyones will. But I’m not
discussing the case further, as I really shouldnt. Im discussing the
conviction, what it means for the BDSM community, and why I feel Glenn Marcus needs our
support.

The statutes he was convicted under, forced labor and sex trafficking, seem
to have been originally intended to apply to women and men (usually immigrants)
who were smuggled into the nation and forced to labor in a variety of ways.
The women and men often are told they will be deported if they complain, and
are often beaten, blackmailed, and threatened to get them to remain. The statute
was never meant to cover a BDSM relationship.

As for the allegations of abuse, I feel if the govt was REALLY after an
abusive man (which Glenn is not), Glenn would have been charged with assault,
aggravated assault, domestic violence, battery, and rape. But he was not. And the
reason for that (at least my view of it) is explained below.

This is, as far as I know, the first time these statutes have been used in
this way. As a result of this conviction, now almost anything can be “forced
labor”. I believe thats what the Government wants, an expansion of their powers.
The prosecutor stated in response to a jury question that if someone forced
someone to play tiddlywinks, that could be forced labor. That certainly paves
the way for the Government to prosecute ANY BDSM relationship, or any divorce
where a woman (or a man) claims the other made them cook, wash dishes, do
housework, etc. Certainly where someone is called a slave, the government will be
more eager to say “see, it IS slave labor”. The government will conviently
ignore the fact its not actual slavery, but an aggreed upon structure by both
parties.

This prosecution is a threat to BDSM. And whether you loathe Glenn or love
him, he needs support or else we shall all suffer the effects of this horrid
precedence setting case.

Sincerely
Chain

GMdefense
Mar 19 2007
11:22 am

If anyone is interested in helping or supporting Glenn Marcus, please write to GMdefense@optonline.net.

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