Anti-Pedo Ads
“The state is posting billboards with messages such as ‘Isn’t she a little young?’ as part of a campaign to dissuade men from having sex with underage girls. The campaign is aimed at reducing the number of young girls who have children with older men, the Virginia Department of Health said Monday. In 1999 and 2000 in Virginia, men over 18 were responsible for 219 births involving girls who were 13 and 14, the department said. Messages such as ‘Isn’t she a little young?’ and ‘Sex with a minor, don’t go there‘ also appear on posters, coasters and napkins in bars, restaurants and stores in five cities.” — Seattle Post Intelligencer (US)
(Thanks to alanr for the link.)
Presumably these anti-pedo ads won’t be running alongside any Calvin Klein billboards, since the fashion designer is notorious for using models that resemble adolescents. (Kate Moss, anyone?) Actually, once you think about it, it’s ironic that it sounds strange to imagine driving down the highway past billboards reminding you to steer clear of jailbait, and yet at the same time we’ve become so habituated to the faux-pedophilia in fashion. Evidently the forces of evil have been savvier than law enforcement in their use of the media. Or perhaps their savvy use of the media — where evil is always sexier than good — has contributed to the problem, or to what might better be called the problematization of pedophilia.
For it is obvious that pedophilia, for whatever societal reasons, has become a problem. Evidently it wasn’t always such an issue. Lawmakers say they want to cut down on births involving girls who are thirteen and fourteen — and yet the current age of consent in Virginia is apparently only fifteen. And it used to be even less. It was in Richmond, Virginia, that Edgar Allan Poe married his thirteen-year-old cousin in 1836. But times have changed, and nowadays the author would be in the slammer for statutory rape, and his wife — whose name, coincidentally, was also Virginia — would probably be on food stamps.
(Google didn’t turn up any images of the billboards — any readers in Virginia want to send in a picture? — but there is a web version of the same campaign, if you want to have a look. It’s pretty slick.)
Of course one solution is to recommend condoms, but nooooooooooo.
For additional insight see the movie Thirteen. (Shucks all I did when I was 13 was play kick the can or some dumb fucking thing.)
This story illustrates the ignorance that many people seem to have concerning the distinction between ephebophilia (attraction to adolescents)
& pedophilia (attraction to children 5 to 12. Not to be confused with ifantophilia which is an attraction to children 5 & younger) Also: pedophilia should not be confused with podophilia which is an attraction to feet. Since the situation in this story appears to involve ephebophilia: it is intellectually dishonest for it to be in the pedophilia section.
It would be interesting to discover the reason as to why all these paraphilias & pathologies seem to exist. Were they introduced due to ancient genetic manipulation or just an evolutionary mutation? Do these pathologies & abnoramilites even truly exist at all or is it just an illusion based on what people THINK they “like”? Is it simply a characteristic of pure evil & or demonic (or “reptilian” / or “alien” if you like)manifestation? Does its manifestation (along with other more common emotional states such as fear & anger) serve as a “power source” for said extra-dimensional entities? (As some fringe research has suggested) (It certainly would seem to explain the odd surge of such bizarre activites & perverstions of late) Is it the result of subtle or covert psychological manipulation of the mind? Is there some purpose to its manifestation or is it just an inconvenient folderol.
While it is hard to imagine what purpose many of these pathologies would have: it is humbling to remember that our understanding of anything only
extends as far as the one dimensional limits of our perception. Our limited understanding of our five sense reality just might not be enough to answer these questions. These questions will likely not be answered until the day when answers to other questions / mysteries of the universe are revealed.
[Warning: I'm going to be really judgemental and won't apologize for it.]
Let’s get serious here. Children are children. They aren’t adults. Their brains and bodies are not fully developed, and they don’t have the same grasp of the consequences of their actions that grown women and men do. The power difference between a child and an adult makes free consent impossible. We protect kids, yes even the ones you might consider hot and sexy, precisely because they are kids. They also can’t vote, can’t enter into contracts, can’t marry and can’t drive.
The sexualization of children and young adolescents is a bad thing. Commercializing it is even worse. But the state religion in the US is money, and who can argue with the Holy Market?
The apologists for the pedophiles blame disease, society, mutation, pretty much anything that removes responsibility from the abusers. If a pedophile realizes that his or her desires are monstrously wrong and takes the appropriate steps (staying away from kids, working hard at developing relationships with adults, seeking treatment BEFORE rather than AFTER getting caught) my hat’s off to him or her. For the other sort, well, there’s no treatment but there is a cure.
I’ll put it a little more bluntly. What you choose to do in private with yourself or other consenting adults is your business. When it involves children, the mentally incompetent or the unwilling an important line has been crossed.
The sexualization of children is indeed a bad thing. For precisely the reasons mentioned above. But what I am pointing out is that the adolescent is in a category that is neither child nor adult. Remember also that in many societies not too long ago, it was common for people to be married in their teens or to marry teen age brides & in some current cultures the age of consent is as low as fourteen. Teenagers are in a murky category in which depending on which country they live in: they have different legal rights. Remember: the Bush twins were in trouble for “under age drinking” at 19 but if they were living in Canada, it would have been totaly legal for them to drink.
Also: I make no apologies for pathological behaviour. I am genuinely interested in HOW these pathologies have come about & how (even why) they have become part of some human behaviour. What is causing these deviant behaviours? Genetics? (this includes the possible genetic manipulation of the human genome of past civilizations) Sin? (though
atheists reject the concept) Mind control? Covert sociological influence? (such as the commercial sexualization of minors to name one) Note: even popular (though controversial) comic Bill Maher commented on how society sends mixed messages concerning this since it frowns on sexual interaction with minors while at the same time it sexualizes them -most notably in consumer marketing campaigns.
Pop idols like Britney Spears have probably done more to “sexualize” minors than anything else. I am wondering: why is that? What is the agenda here? Why is society seemingly promoting the sexualization of minors -even pre teens / same sex senarios / & senior citizens? Gerontophilia is on the rise as well.
I am reluctant to believe that pathologies exist in a vacuum. I do not think the average person suddenly wakes up one day with pedophilic or ephebophilic (though many cultures view this as “healthy” & normal behaviour since adolescents are generally considered nubile) or gerontophilc or other paraphilic tendencies. Is this not learned behaviour at the very least? Are people born with it or is it simply developed as a result of stunted development? Why do some people only like members of their own gender(homophilia)? Why are others attracted mainly to breasts or buttocks or feet? Have these been hard wired into the human race as result of evolution or purposeful past genetic tampering? I think if these questions could be answered then there would be a better understanding of these aberrant traits which could lead to treating the problem at its source. If it is genetic then the DNA itself can be manipulated to change the behaviour. (though this seems rather dangerous) If it is learned then the “unlearning” of the behaviour would work better.
Though certainly this is not to excuse the behaviour itself or the individual who commits the behaviour, but to point out that symptoms do not live in a vacuum. If someone exhibits a cough, it might be due to having a cold or a strep throat. Regardless of the cause of the cough, it does not excuse the responsiblity of the cougher when amomg the general public. Hence: it does not excuse the deviant or pervert of his behaviour to discover that it might be hard wired into the genetic code or simply learned behaviour or arrested development.
The main point I am attempting to stress here is that instead of just focusing on the symptoms of aberrant behaviour, that perhaps it is time to start looking beyond the symptoms & towards the source of the behaviour whatever that might be.
Though I suspect that much like religious fundamentalists who refuse to consider anything outside their limited indoctrinated religious beliefs: too many people will refuse to consider looking for answers outside the limited constructed dialectical paradigm. The term to “think outside of the box” is an enigmatic catchy slogan which few people ever trully enact within their own lives.
In this country we are not free as we once were. In the early days of this once great country we had the Common Law which was all we needed. It is still all we actually need since it is right to the point. Basically, deprive someone of their life (murder), liberty (kidnapping, actual rape (nonconsentual sex)), or property (theft, damage), and you were committing a crime. Now in this near police state that we live in you can be sent to jail for driving without a license (no harm done to anyone).
My point is that we are all supposed to have freedom and that the government is not supposed to infringe on that. They have done exactly that.
This freedom is not supposed to be based on age either, but people under 18 typically get shafted double time because they aren’t allowed to make decisions regarding their own lives until they’re 18, and when they’re 18 or over they don’t have frredom anyway as I have mentioned above.
It does make me very upset when I hear about all the real sickos out there who rape and/or kill underage people whether male or female. However, these things are typically sensationalized way beyond what they need to be in order for the system to get even more control over the people by use of the typical person’s ignorance/naivete.
I don’t care what anyone says. Regardless of age, people have the RIGHT to make their own decisions. If a 14 year old, whether male or female, wants to have a consentual sexual relationship with someone whether that other person is the same age or older or younger, the system has no business in it. It is the mind and the body of that person to make up, regardless of anything. If that person regrets the decision later on, so be it. It’s all a part of growing up. Regretting decisions is possible and no different for a person over 18 than it is for someone under 18.
Besides, if some 14 year old wants to have sex, then they’re going to do it no matter what anyone says. It just really pisses me off that the system can take a consentual act and turn it into a crime when it actually isn’t.
And to say that the person under 18 can’t make an informed rational decision about sex is pure brainwashed psychobabble bullshit. If they weren’t supposed to be able to do it, then they wouldn’t be able to physically (case in point – the pregnant 13 and 14 year olds mentioned elsewhere here, which is truly sad, but that’s what condoms are for and they DO KNOW THAT – I have no idea why they end up pregnant). The body doesn’t all of a sudden flip an internal switch at the magical age of 18 and say, “Okay, now you can go and have sex. And if you regret it, it’s okay because you’re an adult now so it won’t affect you as badly as it did yesterday when you were only 17 years and 364 days old.”
If I would have had the chance when I was under 18 you can bet that I would have done it, and I know for a fact that it would not have affected me in any negative way.
What does affect someone in a negative way is when they are genuinely forced/raped. This is true regardless of age. But is consentual sex for someone under the age of 18 forced? No; therefore, it is nothing negative regardless of whether the other person is the same age or younger or older.
Another thing that really chaps my ass is when it is said that someone (typically a male) “molested” someone else (typically a female). Notice that it must be impossible to molest anyone who is 18 or over as you never hear of that. I guess it’s just rape then. But what exactly is molestaion supposed to be? Honestly, it could be either forced OR consentual sex because it doesn’t matter to the system and the brainwashed general public because the so called “victim” is under 18. Let’s get it straight right now:
1 : to annoy, disturb, or persecute especially with hostile intent or injurious effect
2 : to make annoying sexual advances to; especially : to force physical and usually sexual contact on
Those are definitions from the Merriam-Webster dictionary. As you can plainly see, consentual sex is neither of those conditions regardless of age. It has been claimed that sex between an older person and one under 18 is the result of so called “grooming” (another physchobabble bullshit term used by the brainwashers), but why wouldn’t it be the same for people over 18? It’s called dating or courting then. Grooming implies that the so called “victim” being “groomed” is basically too stupid to make a decision and has to be cooerced into it. That is so not true.
One last thing; how many times do you think some sexual activity between a younger female and an older male has been initiated by the female? More times than the common brainwashed person would want to even think. And these females are the peole who don’t really know what they want and who aren’t old enough to make these types of decisions? Bullshit!!
That’s all.
Thanks for listening to the truth from someone who has the advantage of not being brainwashed and who has common sense due to not having some degree or college education although he is more intelligent than the aforementioned.
SEX IS DIRTY, EVERY FUNDAMENTALIST CHRISTIAN /MOSLEM MORON KNOWS THAT.
Meanwhile, with god’s blessings, we’re all fucking well encouraged to participate in the slaughter of innocence (12,000 children have already died in Iraq)while we eat our big macs and swill our coke. GEES mum, but what if the little corpses are underage and naked and I come across pictures of them on the internet? Well honey, you’d then be charged with downloading child pornography!!!A joke? No mate, this is the truth.
here you go…..
Sex is not bad, only the concepts that are grafted on to the idea by adults with hang-ups and socio-religio-political agendas. The idea that some how human beings between 13-18yrs are by nature irresponsible and immature (Todd Ellner)is poppycock. The human body and mind is, from birth to death, in a process of continual development. To arbitarily say that between the ages of 13-18yrs ( the blossoming of sexual maturity ) this development is somehow flawed
and in need of protection, is not, in the majority of cases true. An arbitary line cannot be drawn between maturity and immaturity then applied to every sexual being on the planet.
Sex should be enjoyed by EVERYONE as soon as they are old enough to’feel’sexual. Responsibility, consideration and respect for the other should also be part of the equasion, and this is where legislation has a place i.e. where these things have been abused, NOT against
the act of sex itself between consenting partners of different ages.
In my country recently, a 32yr old female gym teacher was sent to prison for two years for fucking one of her sixteen year old male students. As a result, this poor women, lost her job, her superannuation, her self-respect and many of her friends, and has been placed on a pedophile ’sex offenders’ register for ten years!
How fucking crazy is this? particularly when you consider that the young man involved said he’d had sex with lots of other people before his gym teacher, and that they are still good friends. In fact, at her appeal, he even came to court and offered his support as a friend.
D.Praved
The hunt for child molesters and pedofiles on the internet, taken to the extreme lengths it is now taken, poses a more sinister threat to the freedom and dignity of human beings than those few poor lost souls who surf for pictures of so-called underage girls to beat their meat over.
Consider this: over 80% of internet traffic involves pornography. Underage websites, many of which exist in countries where the age of concent is 12yrs, are GREAT SPAMMERS. They know how to get inside your computer and leave their little messages ( a few pictures ). The great majority of these websites, I might add, due to a recent survey on the inquisition website, show girls, between 13-16yrs,in semi-naked poses, some of which are sexually suggestive – but a long way from the real abusive stuff i.e. adults with underdeveloped children…
Well, when these spams of the young girls pop up
on someone’s computer, they may excite curiousity, fear, lust, disgust…the person at the keyboard, may then decide to do several things: take a peak at the actual website ((woops more spam!) put the spam in the rubbish bin, or pay money to join the site.
Now lets say a couple of days later he or she takes their hard drive to a computer repair shop, and the repairman discovers (spammed)images of young girls on the hard drive. Then, encouraged by media generated propaganda and paranoia, he reports the owner of the computer to the sex police, who then confiscate the computer, raid the persons home ( when his or her family or friends may be present ) conduct a search, confiscate other computers, discs and so on…
The local paper gets wind of it, and the following headlines appear: SUSPECTED PEDOPHILE…bla, bla, bla….
This is not just a fairytale – it is happening every day!!!!
Even if aquitted ( which is rare )later on, the social and economic consequences for the accused
are in most cases absolutely devistating.
SO MUCH FOR DEMOCRACY AND JUSTICE…
Hey people, God came to me in a vision last night and said that ALL sex was dirty, that children should not be allowed to grow up so fast (18yrs still too young!) that they should learn to feel ashamed of their bodies and their thoughts, and that masturbation (with themselves) should also be discouraged because of the destructive effect it has on eroding the internal retinea of the eye (thoughts) and that any male/female who even looks sideways at a fe/male above the age of 13 and under the age of 30, should be shot. For doesn’t the bible say: that thinking about being naughty is as bad as doing it?.Yahh!And didn’t Mao, Stalin and Marx say something about the exploitation of sexuality by the bourgeoisie,and the insidiousness of thought crimes being corrosive to correct thinking? Then there’s Freud, Engels and Hegel who delt with it all a little more specifically…Oh joy! Oh heaven! Oh utopia! Here at last, is where the extremes of the left wing and the right converge, where political correctness and fundamentalism finally hop into bed with eachother and….dahhh,wait a minute, political correctness is only 15 years old. Hey -will someone call the sex police!!
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