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		<title>By: Thirst For Blood</title>
		<link>http://pervscan.com/2004/02/28/false-repressed-memories/comment-page-1/#comment-778</link>
		<dc:creator>Thirst For Blood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be interesting to find out what these three psychiatric doctor&#039;s believed in. Were they apart of the church that wanted to create propaganda? Or did they have a personal enslavement of lust for power? Whatever the reason it still manages to sound quite cruel. I believe celeberity serial killer Charles Manson did the same by &#039;helping&#039; his peers get under the influence of LSD and then brain-washing them with his enigmatic racist philosophies. Although I dont know how much truth is in that since the whole Charles Manson case was sodomized by sensationalism. So who&#039;s to say this story isn&#039;t as well? But I dont think it would really matter if you end up with $7.5 million. With that money I would leave to a country with a far less corrupted society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be interesting to find out what these three psychiatric doctor&#8217;s believed in. Were they apart of the church that wanted to create propaganda? Or did they have a personal enslavement of lust for power? Whatever the reason it still manages to sound quite cruel. I believe celeberity serial killer Charles Manson did the same by &#8216;helping&#8217; his peers get under the influence of LSD and then brain-washing them with his enigmatic racist philosophies. Although I dont know how much truth is in that since the whole Charles Manson case was sodomized by sensationalism. So who&#8217;s to say this story isn&#8217;t as well? But I dont think it would really matter if you end up with $7.5 million. With that money I would leave to a country with a far less corrupted society.</p>
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		<title>By: jmalebranche</title>
		<link>http://pervscan.com/2004/02/28/false-repressed-memories/comment-page-1/#comment-779</link>
		<dc:creator>jmalebranche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been a few days, so I had to dig around for the actual story, but one report stated:

&quot;Brinton said Braun currently lives and practices in Montana with a restricted license, Martinez reported.&quot;

A Restricted License!  

These &quot;therapists&quot; were paid to assist a troubled woman, and instead - pumped her full of drugs and used hypnosis and suggestion to convince her of the most ludicrous nonsense. Some kind of criminal prosecution seems far more appropriate.  The idea that this person has already had her license reinstated once after previous allegations should be enough to revoke her license permanently. The &quot;therapist&quot; is obviously more delusional than her patient.  Murderous Satanic cults always have been and always will be little more than Christian propaganda.  People like Manson and Ramirez and Berkowitz were hardly Satanists - they were simply psychotics using &quot;demonic forces&quot; to justify and give meaning to their behavior.

The findings stated in a 1992 FBI investigation show that &quot;Satanic Ritual Abuse&quot; simply does not happen.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.skeptictank.org/fbi1992.htm&quot;&gt;http://www.skeptictank.org/fbi1992.htm&lt;/a&gt;

As a Satanist, I&#039;m appalled to see that this sort of thing is still going on.  It&#039;s a recurring public hysteria prodded on by paranoid Christians, but I thought the results of the report cited above had finally laid to rest the Geraldo-fueled Satanic Panic of the 1980s.

The interesting thing to me about your comment, of course, was that Satanic Ritual (such as it is, and not as it is imagined to be) IS psychodrama and can make use of these fictional visions of &quot;Satanic Cults&quot; (history of such goes back for ages) for the benefit and enjoyment of the individual participants.  

No quack therapists required.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been a few days, so I had to dig around for the actual story, but one report stated:</p>
<p>&#8220;Brinton said Braun currently lives and practices in Montana with a restricted license, Martinez reported.&#8221;</p>
<p>A Restricted License!  </p>
<p>These &#8220;therapists&#8221; were paid to assist a troubled woman, and instead &#8211; pumped her full of drugs and used hypnosis and suggestion to convince her of the most ludicrous nonsense. Some kind of criminal prosecution seems far more appropriate.  The idea that this person has already had her license reinstated once after previous allegations should be enough to revoke her license permanently. The &#8220;therapist&#8221; is obviously more delusional than her patient.  Murderous Satanic cults always have been and always will be little more than Christian propaganda.  People like Manson and Ramirez and Berkowitz were hardly Satanists &#8211; they were simply psychotics using &#8220;demonic forces&#8221; to justify and give meaning to their behavior.</p>
<p>The findings stated in a 1992 FBI investigation show that &#8220;Satanic Ritual Abuse&#8221; simply does not happen.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.skeptictank.org/fbi1992.htm">http://www.skeptictank.org/fbi1992.htm</a></p>
<p>As a Satanist, I&#8217;m appalled to see that this sort of thing is still going on.  It&#8217;s a recurring public hysteria prodded on by paranoid Christians, but I thought the results of the report cited above had finally laid to rest the Geraldo-fueled Satanic Panic of the 1980s.</p>
<p>The interesting thing to me about your comment, of course, was that Satanic Ritual (such as it is, and not as it is imagined to be) IS psychodrama and can make use of these fictional visions of &#8220;Satanic Cults&#8221; (history of such goes back for ages) for the benefit and enjoyment of the individual participants.  </p>
<p>No quack therapists required.</p>
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		<title>By: precisegirl</title>
		<link>http://pervscan.com/2004/02/28/false-repressed-memories/comment-page-1/#comment-780</link>
		<dc:creator>precisegirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People often refer to that &quot;FBI report&quot; as proving there&#039;s no &quot;satanic ritual abuse,&quot; but actually (having read it and written a whole review of it recently) that&#039;s not what it says at all. First of all it&#039;s not actually an FBI investigation -- it&#039;s a report written, apparently unsolicited, by an FBI agent who has investigated a lot of what he calls &quot;these kinds of cases&quot; over about ten years. (Which, mind you, was about ten years *ago* by now.) 

More importantly though, he&#039;s not actually making the claim that there&#039;s no ritual abuse or that there&#039;s no Satanic ritual abuse; the only concrete statement (iirc) that he can make about it is that he hasn&#039;t found any evidence in those ten years of Satanic ritual *murder* -- that is, of a murder that was committed specifically as part of a Satanic ritual. 

He also conflates the terms &quot;ritual abuse&quot; and &quot;satanic ritual abuse&quot; like crazy, as people did back then -- meaning that when people can&#039;t find proof of an international Satanic cult conspiracy, they assume ritual abuse never exists. Even though he cites a number of examples of what *I* would call ritual abuse by people in (or perverting) *other* religions. 

Most of the ritual abuse I&#039;ve seen (and I actually do know people who have had enough evidence to bring these things to court, for whatever that&#039;s worth) has been by people practicing some twisted (or regular, or fundamentalist, or....) form of a mainstream religion, actually. Or government ritual abuse, which is probably more prevalent in a lot of ways. But people often don&#039;t count that - they like to exploit Satanism to &quot;prove&quot; that these things don&#039;t happen, just as they used to exploit it to &quot;prove&quot; that all ritual abuse was Satanic and all Pagans and Satanists were Bad. 

anyway :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People often refer to that &#8220;FBI report&#8221; as proving there&#8217;s no &#8220;satanic ritual abuse,&#8221; but actually (having read it and written a whole review of it recently) that&#8217;s not what it says at all. First of all it&#8217;s not actually an FBI investigation &#8212; it&#8217;s a report written, apparently unsolicited, by an FBI agent who has investigated a lot of what he calls &#8220;these kinds of cases&#8221; over about ten years. (Which, mind you, was about ten years *ago* by now.) </p>
<p>More importantly though, he&#8217;s not actually making the claim that there&#8217;s no ritual abuse or that there&#8217;s no Satanic ritual abuse; the only concrete statement (iirc) that he can make about it is that he hasn&#8217;t found any evidence in those ten years of Satanic ritual *murder* &#8212; that is, of a murder that was committed specifically as part of a Satanic ritual. </p>
<p>He also conflates the terms &#8220;ritual abuse&#8221; and &#8220;satanic ritual abuse&#8221; like crazy, as people did back then &#8212; meaning that when people can&#8217;t find proof of an international Satanic cult conspiracy, they assume ritual abuse never exists. Even though he cites a number of examples of what *I* would call ritual abuse by people in (or perverting) *other* religions. </p>
<p>Most of the ritual abuse I&#8217;ve seen (and I actually do know people who have had enough evidence to bring these things to court, for whatever that&#8217;s worth) has been by people practicing some twisted (or regular, or fundamentalist, or&#8230;.) form of a mainstream religion, actually. Or government ritual abuse, which is probably more prevalent in a lot of ways. But people often don&#8217;t count that &#8211; they like to exploit Satanism to &#8220;prove&#8221; that these things don&#8217;t happen, just as they used to exploit it to &#8220;prove&#8221; that all ritual abuse was Satanic and all Pagans and Satanists were Bad. </p>
<p>anyway :)</p>
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		<title>By: precisegirl</title>
		<link>http://pervscan.com/2004/02/28/false-repressed-memories/comment-page-1/#comment-781</link>
		<dc:creator>precisegirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>apparently I can&#039;t use HTML when I post - &quot;government ritual abuse&quot; should have linked to 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://everything2.com/index.pl?node=project%20monarch,&quot;&gt;http://everything2.com/index.pl?node=project%20monarch,&lt;/a&gt; which mainly cites the CIA&#039;s own documents about stuff they do to people. And 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://everything2.com/index.pl?node=1992%20fbi%20report%20on%20satanic%20ritual%20abuse&quot;&gt;http://everything2.com/index.pl?node=1992%20fbi%20report%20on%20satanic%20ritual%20abuse&lt;/a&gt;
is my review of the 1992 FBI blah blah report. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>apparently I can&#8217;t use HTML when I post &#8211; &#8220;government ritual abuse&#8221; should have linked to<br />
<a href="http://everything2.com/index.pl?node=project%20monarch,"></a><a href="http://everything2.com/index.pl?node=project%20monarch" rel="nofollow">http://everything2.com/index.pl?node=project%20monarch</a>, which mainly cites the CIA&#8217;s own documents about stuff they do to people. And<br />
<a href="http://everything2.com/index.pl?node=1992%20fbi%20report%20on%20satanic%20ritual%20abuse">http://everything2.com/index.pl?node=1992%20fbi%20report%20on%20satanic%20ritual%20abuse</a><br />
is my review of the 1992 FBI blah blah report.</p>
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